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JOHN YANG: Good evening. I’m John Yang. Judy Woodruff is away.
On the NewsHour tonight: While President Trump signs another flurry of executive actions, the Senate grills his picks to run the nation’s budget and health care.
Then: life after the presidency, a look at the second acts of ex-presidents after leaving the highest office.
And Jeffrey Brown sits down with the director of “La La Land” to talk how the unconventional musical is ushering the past into the modern age.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE, Director, “La La Land”: If you want to actually help an art form, or sort of contribute to it in some ways, you have to find a way to add something new. You have to update it.
JOHN YANG: All that and more on tonight’s PBS NewsHour.
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JOHN YANG: Another busy day at the Trump White House today, with the new president undoing more of the Obama legacy. This time, the focus was on hotly debated plans for moving oil across the country.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: We will see if we can get that pipeline built.
JOHN YANG: With the stroke of a pen, President Trump breathed new life into two major pipeline projects: the Keystone XL, running from Alberta, Canada, to Nebraska, which then-President Obama halted in late 2015, and the Dakota Access pipeline, for which the Army Corps of Engineers decided last year to explore alternate routes across North Dakota.
On Keystone, Mr. Trump directed the State Department to rule on a new application for the 1,100-mile pipeline within 60 days after it’s submitted.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: A lot of jobs, 28,000 jobs, great construction jobs. OK, Keystone pipeline.
JOHN YANG: The Dakota pipeline has triggered protests from the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe and others, who say it endangers cultural sites and drinking water. Mr. Trump ordered that all new pipelines be constructed with U.S.-made steel. The president also moved today to speed up the environmental review process for infrastructure projects, as well as the permitting process for manufacturers.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Sometimes, it takes many, many years, and we don’t want that to happen. And if it’s a no, we will give them a quick no. And if it’s a yes, it’s like, let’s start building.
JOHN YANG: Cutting red tape was a topic at a breakfast meeting with auto executives.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: It’s out of control, and we’re going to make it a very short process. And we’re going to either give you your permits or we’re not going to give you your permits. But you’re going to know very quickly.
JOHN YANG: That drew praise from GM CEO Mary Barra.
MARY BARRA, CEO, General Motors: There is a huge opportunity, you know, working together as an industry with government, that we can do and improve the environment, improve safety and improve the jobs creation and the competitiveness of manufacturing.
JOHN YANG: Meanwhile, Mr. Trump had news on making a nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I will be making my decision this week. We will be announcing next week.
JOHN YANG: Later, he huddled with Senate leaders to discuss the year-old court vacancy. He also sat down with Mike Pompeo, the newly confirmed CIA director. And there were reports that he’s asking James Comey to stay on as FBI director.
White House spokesman Sean Spicer wouldn’t confirm that, but he did discuss the president’s belief, which he repeated to congressional leaders on Monday, that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote because of ballot fraud.
SEAN SPICER, White House Press Secretary: The president does believe that. He’s stated that before. And I think he stated his concerns of voter fraud and people voting illegally during the campaign. And he continues to maintain that belief, based on studies and evidence that people have presented to him.
JOHN YANG: Election officials across the country say there is no evidence to support the claim.
Meanwhile, President Trump will address a joint session of Congress on February 28.
On Capitol Hill, four more of Mr. Trump’s Cabinet-level nominees advanced. Committee approved Dr. Ben Carson to be secretary of housing and urban development, billionaire investor Wilbur Ross to be commerce secretary, South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley to be ambassador to the United Nations, and for secretary of transportation, Elaine Chao, a former labor secretary. Late this afternoon, the full Senate confirmed Ambassador Haley.
Mr. Trump’s nominee to run the Small Business Administration says her experience building World Wrestling Entertainment, or the WWE, is just what’s needed for the job. Linda McMahon also told her confirmation hearing today that she and her husband once lost their home to bankruptcy, and she said, “I know what it’s like to take a hit.”
British Prime Minister Theresa May will have to get Parliament’s approval before she starts the process of withdrawing from the European Union. The United Kingdom’s Supreme Court ruled today that May doesn’t have the authority to do it on her own. As a result, the government told the House of Commons it will rush legislation to approve the beginning the Brexit process.
David Davis, Brexit Secretary: That is what the British people voted for, and it is what they would expect. Parliament will rightly scrutinize and debate this legislation, but I trust no one will seek to make it a vehicle for attempts to thwart the will of the people, or frustrate or delay the process of leaving the European Union.
JOHN YANG: Lawmakers will have a chance to offer amendments to that legislation and on worker rights and other issues, and that could delay Brexit.
The Israeli government has announced plans to build 2,500 more homes in Jewish settlements in the West Bank. It’s the second such move since President Trump took office. He has indicated he will be much more receptive to settlement expansion than President Obama was. Israel says the new homes will be in existing settlements that they would retain in any peace deal with the Palestinians. A Palestinian spokesman condemned the announcement.
Russia, Turkey and Iran pledged today to shore up a fragile cease-fire between the Syrian regime and rebel groups. The announcement came at the conclusion of peace talks hosted in Kazakstan. The opposition quickly objected to Iran’s involvement because of its battlefield support for Syria ‘s government, but the U.N. envoy called for restraint.
STAFFAN DE MISTURA, Special United Nations Envoy for Syria: We cannot allow another cease-fire, a third one, to be, in a way, wasted because of a lack of a political process. So, now is the time for the international community, in all its dimensions, to come together and support one integrated political negotiating process, based also on the help of this remarkable moment that we had today.
JOHN YANG: The United States did not take part in the parts.
In Central Italy, search teams found 10 more bodies in a hotel wrecked by an avalanche last week. That brings to 17 the number killed when the wall of snow smashed into the site. Rescue crews have been working for days to try to find more survivors. Nine people have been found alive so far. A dozen are still unaccounted for.
On Wall Street today, bank stocks helped fuel a rally that set new records. The Dow Jones industrial average gained nearly 113 points to close at 19912. The Nasdaq rose 48 points, and the S&P 500 added almost 15. The Nasdaq and the S&P closed at all-time highs.
And the Oscar nominations are out, and “La La Land” got a record-tying 14. The romantic musical will contend with eight other films for best picture, including “Hidden Figures,” “Manchester by the Sea” and “Fences.”
Overall, this year’s nominees are much more diverse, with seven actors of color out of a total of 20.
We will have an interview with the director of “La La Land” later in the program.
Still to come on the “NewsHour”: two presidential nominees get grilled by senators; a shifting U.S. environmental policy, starting with the Keystone and Dakota oil pipelines; life after the Oval Office, what presidents do when they leave the White House; and much more.
On Capitol Hill today, it was another marathon round of confirmation hearings for President Trump’s Cabinet nominees. His pick to head the Department of Health and Human Services, Georgia Congressman Tom Price, took his turn before the Senate Finance Committee.
Just like last week, the physician lawmaker faced tough questioning on what is going to happen as the administration moves to repeal the Affordable Care Act.
Last week, Mr. Trump signed an executive order allowing the administration to delay, waive or change parts of the law that are too much of a burden. Senators wanted to know what that means, starting with Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden.
SEN. RON WYDEN, D-Ore.: Will you guarantee that no one will lose coverage under the executive order?
REP. TOM PRICE, R-Ga.: Health and Human Services Secretary Nominee: I guarantee you that the individuals that lost coverage under the Affordable Care Act, we will commit to making certain that they don’t lose coverage under whatever replacement plan comes forward. That’s the commitment that I provide to you.
SEN. RON WYDEN: The question again is, will anyone lose coverage? And you answered to something I didn’t ask. Will you commit to not implementing the order until the replacement plan is in place?
REP. TOM PRICE: What I commit to the American people is to keep patients at the center of health care. And what that means to me is making certain that every single American has access to affordable health coverage that will provide the highest-quality health care that the world can provide.
SEN. RON WYDEN: I’m going to close by way of saying that what the congressman is saying is that the order could go into effect before there is a replacement plan. And independent experts say that this is going to destroy the market on which millions of working families buy health coverage.
And on the questions that I ask, will the congressman commit that nobody will be worse off, nobody will lose coverage, we didn’t get an answer.
JOHN YANG: Senators also tried find out what role Price was playing in crafting the president’s health care alternative, but didn’t have much success.
Not far from Price’s hearing, the Senate Budget Committee grilled the president’s pick to head the Office of Management and Budget.
Lisa Desjardins has that story.
LISA DESJARDINS: Congressman Mick Mulvaney was introduced at this morning’s hearing as a vigilant budget hawk. The staunch conservative is President Trump’s choice to lead the White House Budget Office.
REP. MICK MULVANEY (R-S.C.), Budget Director Nominee: I believe, as a matter of principle, that the debt is a problem that must be addressed sooner rather than later. I also know that fundamental changes are necessary in the way Washington spends and taxes if we truly want a healthy economy.
LISA DESJARDINS: Mulvaney was elected as a South Carolina representative in 2010 in the Tea Party wave. He told senators today that Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security need significant changes to be preserved for the future.
But Mr. Trump used different words when he spoke to the conservative news site The Daily Signal in May of 2015.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I’m not going to cut Social Security, like every other Republican, and I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.
LISA DESJARDINS: Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders pressed Mulvaney on the contrast.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, I-Vt.: Will you tell the president of the United States, Mr. President, keep your word, be honest with the American people, do not cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid?
REP. MICK MULVANEY: The only thing I know to do is to tell the president the truth. And the truth is that, if we do not reform these programs that are so important to your constituents in Vermont, and to mine in South Carolina, I believe in nine or 10 years, the Medicaid trust fund is empty. In roughly in 17 or 18 years, the Social Security trust fund is empty.
LISA DESJARDINS: The sustainability of Social Security also came up in an exchange between Mulvaney and fellow South Carolinian Lindsey Graham.
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, R-S.C.: Would you agree with me that, for younger workers, they may have to work longer before they enter the program, to save the program?
REP. MICK MULVANEY: I have already told my children to prepare for exactly that.
LISA DESJARDINS: Mulvaney said he doesn’t want to cut entitlements for people already receiving benefits. And he said he agrees with President Trump’s plan to boost the Pentagon’s budget.
That issue and Mulvaney’s record on the military came up during his second hearing this afternoon, before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-Ariz.: What’s the highest priority, reducing the debt or rebuilding the military?
REP. MICK MULVANEY: The number one priority of the United States government is to defend the nation.
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN: That’s nice to hear that you believe they’re important, because you have spent your entire congressional career pitting the debt against our military, and each time, at least for you, our military was less important.
LISA DESJARDINS: The nominee was also forced to answer for his failure years ago to pay more than $15,000 in payroll taxes for a household worker. Mulvaney said it was a mistake.
REP. MICK MULVANEY: It was a young woman who did not live with us, did not teach the children, did not cook or clean. She helped my wife with the children.
And we did not withhold federal taxes. And, honestly, I didn’t think about it again until December. It was my responsibility. But once it was brought to my attention, I did the only thing I know to do, which is simply be straightforward about it, admit the problem and then try to fix it.
LISA DESJARDINS: Some Democrats have said that error is disqualifying. And nominees have confronted similar issues in the past. Two of President Clinton’s picks for attorney general, Kimba Wood and Zoe Baird, withdrew for a failure to pay taxes on household help.
That led to revelations that two already confirmed secretaries, Ron Brown and Federico Pena, had also failed to pay employee taxes. And in 2009, tax concerns sank Tom Daschle, President Obama’s choice for the Health and Human Services Department. But Tim Geithner was confirmed as treasury secretary that year, despite not paying all of his personal taxes.
And Mulvaney was also pressed on the 2013 government shutdown. He was one of the conservatives who said it was worth not compromising and allowing the showdown to make their point about the Affordable Care Act, which he wanted to repeal.
One thing, though, Republicans say, despite all of the pressing from Democrats, they think all of these nominees will ultimately be confirmed, John, even as we see some of the votes continue to be postponed in hearings. John, it’s really a question of Republicans, they say, of not if, but when.
JOHN YANG: Lisa, one big nomination that President Trump says he is going to make next week is to the Supreme Court. There was a meeting at the White House with Senate leaders to talk about it.
What are you hearing about that meeting?
LISA DESJARDINS: That’s right.
We’re hearing it was a short meeting. I have multiple sources, Republican and Democrat, telling me it lasted about 30 minutes. From the Republican side, we get one version. Chuck Grassley sent out a statement to us saying that it was a step in the right direction, that it was productive and frank.
But, John, Democrats say simply that it was a chance for them to state their belief that this Supreme Court nominee must be from the mainstream. How I read that, both sides are honestly gearing for a potential very large fight.
And talking to senators in the hallway today, John, you could tell Republicans are brace themselves for the possibility that they may not be able to get 60 votes, which is the requirement right now for a Supreme Court nominee. And they seem to be considering a discussion over changing that rule down to 50. That will be a monumental change, and it seems like it might be ahead.
JOHN YANG: And, Lisa, give us an update on what is also ahead on the big Trump goal on the Hill, which is to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.
LISA DESJARDINS: Right.
We have some deadlines coming up on that in just a couple of days. On Friday, that’s the deadline for committees to put in their language essentially for what the repeal should look like. That’s not the replacement. The replacement, meanwhile, will also be a huge topic of conversation, perhaps the biggest topic of conversation, when House and Senate Republicans go to Philadelphia starting tomorrow for their retreat.
This is going to be where they lay out their game plan for the entire year. And at the very top of the agenda, Republicans will try to work out amongst themselves how they want to deal with the Obamacare replacement.
JOHN YANG: And another Trump priority that a lot of people thought the Democrats on the Hill might be able to work with them on was the infrastructure project. And I understand that the Democrats had something to say about that today.
LISA DESJARDINS: That’s right.
Democrats agree, we also want to expand American infrastructure and do more on it. But that’s where the agreement ends. Democrats’ proposal today is a $1 trillion infrastructure plan. The difference, it seems, John is potentially how they would pay for it. Democrats say they would like to close tax loopholes.
We’re waiting to see what President Trump proposes, how large his infrastructure plan is. But already Republicans say on the Hill say no way to the way Democrats are going. They instead want just a straight spending plan. Republicans want to have tax credits that would go more to businesses, rather than just hiring for paving highways and such.
So they agree on one thing, that America needs more roads and bridges, but they certainly disagree on how to do it.
JOHN YANG: And, Lisa, the Republicans complained a lot about President Obama’s executive actions. We have had a lot of executive actions from President Trump so far. What’s been the reaction on the Hill?
LISA DESJARDINS: This has been such an interesting storyline today, John.
For the most part, Republicans are of course happy with some of these executive actions, things like the Keystone pipeline in Canada. That’s something that they have pushed for.
But, if you look at the details of these executive actions, specifically another one on pipelines, today, President Trump asked the Commerce Department to come up with a plan that would ensure that pipelines all be made from American-built products, so American steel, essentially.
That’s something he talked about in the campaign, but it’s something that House Speaker Ryan himself took out of a bill formally. Not all Republicans like that idea. They’re not all sure it’s good for business.
JOHN YANG: Lisa Desjardins, just outside the House chamber, thank you very much.
As we reported, President Trump today signed a number of executive orders, some of them undoing part of President Obama’s environmental legacy.
William Brangham has more.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Two of those moves gave new life to two of the most contentious oil pipelines in America, the Dakota Access pipeline, which hundreds of Native American groups have been protesting, as well as the Keystone XL pipeline.
Both of these had been delayed or put on hold by the Obama administration.
To understand how these moves fit into the Trump administration’s broader plans for energy and environmental policy, I’m joined by Valerie Volcovici. She covers this for Reuters.
Welcome.
VALERIE VOLCOVICI, Reuters: Thank you.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: So let’s talk about these two pipelines in particular.
The Dakota Access pipeline, what did Trump’s order say about that?
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: So, Trump’s order this morning basically said that he wants to expedite the process.
As you well know, the Dakota Access protest has really galvanized Native American tribal sovereignty issues. It’s brought together So, wide coalition of environmentalists, social activists, in addition to tribes.
So it’s been one of the more high-profile protests that we have seen in a while. Right now, it’s kind of stalled because former President Obama ordered an environmental review of a kind of contentious section of this pipeline that the tribe argues crosses into some sacred sites. His aim is really to move it along, because…
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: He wants to get this built.
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: He wants to get it built, and he said so on the campaign trail, and he is following through on day four, whatever it is, of the administration.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Yes, this one really wasn’t that much of a surprise, if you had been listening to him all along.
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: Right.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: And then what about the Keystone XL? That is a slightly different issue. This was another pipeline that goes from Canada down to the Gulf.
And this was one that Obama for many, many years seemed to wrangle with and debate what to do, and then eventually denied the permit for it. What did Trump do today?
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: Well, what Trump did today is, first of all, it invited Canada to reapply. TransCanada is the company that wants to get it built. As far as I’m aware, TransCanada has said it wants to reapply.
And then it will have the State Department. They will do an environmental impact assessment of the permit and decide whether or not to issue it. And it needs to be done within 60 days.
So, again, another sign that Trump wants to fast-track this, because, as we remember from the Keystone fights, it lasted a long time and kind of became a symbol of President Obama’s environmental goals and it really also galvanized the environmentalists.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: So, these orders don’t guarantee that they will go forward. They just seemed to move the ball much closer to the goalposts, right?
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: Right, but this will be — you know, everything will be at the discretion of the various agencies involved.
And I guess one could assume that they would lean in favor, because now we have a different administration in. We can also expect to see legal challenges. The lawyer for the Standing Rock Tribe said that they’re going to be focusing on the legal battles. They are going to be in court.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: President Trump has said all along that this is about jobs primarily. Do we have a sense of how many jobs these two pipelines would generate?
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: He said this morning when he was announcing these orders that the Keystone pipeline would create 28,000 jobs. Previous assessments of the pipeline said that really the permanent jobs created are maybe a little more than a dozen or two dozen jobs.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Two dozen jobs?
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: Yes.
So, the numbers cited are always in conflict. They are always very much contested, when you look at the permanent jobs and the temporary jobs. And I think that environmental groups will argue that, as far as these pipelines being job creators, in the long term, not so much, because the permanent jobs are just much fewer than the temporary jobs.
But we saw President Trump yesterday met with labor union representatives, very strong proponents of both these pipeline projects, and they were very, very happy after their meeting with President Trump yesterday. And one of the labor leaders today said, you know, we’re really excited to see, you know, he’s not all talk, he’s action.
And they were very happy to see it early on.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: There were a few other executive orders that the president issued today that also pertained to this. What were these about?
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: So, these orders were kind of more generally talking about the overall process of approving these pipeline projects and different infrastructure projects.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: So, speeding the process along?
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: Speeding the process.
And a very interesting addition is that a pipeline project should use American steel, American labor. So, using some of Trump’s America-first energy and broader policy, that’s kind of injected into his approach to pipelines and infrastructure.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: More broadly, I know you have studied the Obama administration’s environmental policy and then the emerging Trump administration’s policy. How do these pipeline projects fit into that larger vision, as you see it?
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: Well, candidate Trump made it very clear what he wants to see.
He has seen President Obama — former President Obama’s environmental regulations as something that’s choking the U.S. economy, that’s preventing jobs from being created.
Former President Obama didn’t really see that they were an impediment to job creation. And he liked to highlight that U.S. emissions went down as the economy grew.
So, Trump’s vision is very different. He sees an all-of-the-above energy strategy, with a very heavy focus on fossil fuels. He sees that as really a way to create this American renaissance in manufacturing and in, you know, those good old blue-collar jobs that he was really talking about very much on the campaign trail.
So, for him, it’s part of his economic vision. The environmental gains of the Obama administration were seen as an impediment to those goals.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: All right, Valerie Volcovici of Reuters, thank you very much.
VALERIE VOLCOVICI: Thank you.
JOHN YANG: Stay with us.
Coming up on the NewsHour: do more police in schools improve safety or make racial disparities worse?; and the inspiration behind the film with the most Oscar nominations, the musical “La La Land.”
But first: When former President Obama lifted off from the U.S. Capitol Friday, he joined one of the most exclusive clubs in the world. There are just five living ex-presidents.
Today, a former president can do pretty much whatever he wants. After a weekend in Palm Springs, President Obama and his wife reportedly flew to the British Virgin Islands for some vacation time. But what next?
Judy Woodruff sat down with Atlantic writer Barbara Bradley Hagerty, who spent several months looking at how presidents who left office at relatively young ages decided what to do with the rest of their lives.
This is part of the NewsHour’s ongoing partnership with The Atlantic.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY, The Atlantic: Well, generally, presidents — and let’s refer throughout history — unless presidents were wealthy, they generally had to work.
So, George Washington became the largest whiskey distiller. And, you know, William Howard Taft became the Supreme Court chief justice. So, they had to work.
But, more recently, what I was interested in seeing is that presidents are living so long now. And when a president leaves in midlife, at the peak of his game, what does he do then? What does he do for an encore?
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, over time, the idea of what to do and the amount of time has changed. Take us back to modern presidents. I mean, you looked at Jimmy Carter.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Jimmy Carter, he had a rough landing after his presidency, which is not atypical.
So, Jimmy Carter loses to — in a landslide to Ronald Reagan, and he comes home to Plains, Georgia, and there he finds that his business, his peanut business, is a million dollars in debt, that his house is in need of repair, and, literally, the forest has come right up to his back step, their back step.
And it was kind of this metaphor for Jimmy Carter’s life. How does he navigate through the thicket? How does he have meaning in his life, after he was a one-term, relatively unpopular president? And so that was his challenge.
JUDY WOODRUFF: And he was in his mid-50s.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: He was. He was 56.
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, how did he go about figuring out what he would do?
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: When you look at Carter, what you saw was a man who was — his personality, he was very smart, very ambitious, and he had a kind of biblical ethos.
In fact, Walter Mondale told me that Jimmy Carter said, you know, when this is all over, I want to be a missionary.
So there’s that. And then there was his presidency. And what you saw in the presidency, it was a rough presidency, but he had this one defining area, right, Camp David, peace between Israel and Egypt.
And so what he did is, he took those two things and he created the Carter Center. And the Carter Center absolutely redefined the post-presidency for everyone who came behind him. He created this institution where he could do freelance diplomacy and other good works around the world.
So, the Carter Center has monitored more than 100 elections. He’s won the Nobel Peace Prize. He also kind of got under — he was kind of a burr under the saddle of his successors. Because of this peace-at-any-cost type of ethos, he ended up interfering in their policies.
For example, under President Clinton, North Korea was developing nuclear weapons, and Carter went over as a private citizen and said that economic sanctions were off the table. He said this on television. And Clinton was absolutely furious.
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, after the Jimmy Carter legacy of building up the Carter Center, a couple of presidents later, along comes Bill Clinton, very different set of circumstances.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Yes, absolutely.
And Bill Clinton also had a pretty rough landing when he was the ex-president. On his first day out of office, he went to the coffee shop in Chappaqua, New York, to get a cup of coffee, and suddenly he was surrounded with a phalanx of reporters, right?
And he — they were shouting questions at him: Why did you pardon Marc Rich, the fugitive financier? Why did you do that?
And suddenly he found himself completely naked. He didn’t have a press office to protect him. He had no barrier between himself and the rest of the world. And it was a really rough time for him, made all the more rough because he was counting on some speeches to help him with his debt. As you remember, he came out of office with $12 million in legal fees because of the impeachment proceedings. And he paid a lot to his lawyers.
All of those speeches just disappeared overnight because of the Marc Rich controversy, so it was a pretty tough time for him.
JUDY WOODRUFF: You wrote, I think, that Clinton was described as having given a lot of thought to his post-presidency.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Yes, apparently from the first…
JUDY WOODRUFF: While he was president.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Right.
Apparently, from the first day he was in office, he was thinking about his post-presidency. And he set up the Clinton Foundation when he was still president. And so he has — he had given a lot of thought to it. It’s just those plans were a little bit delayed while he had to get through those first rough months.
JUDY WOODRUFF: How do you see the Clinton Foundation and what it’s been able to accomplish, compared to Jimmy Carter’s work at the Carter Center?
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Well, the Clinton Foundation is kind of the Carter Center on steroids, right?
I mean — and it reflects Bill Clinton’s personality. So, when he started this Clinton Foundation, it is a global enterprise to do good. Right? They have done a lot of good. They have gotten sugary drinks out of public schools. They have driven down the price of AIDS medicine in Africa.
JUDY WOODRUFF: But with the Clinton Foundation comes a lot of money. They have raised a lot of money, and then there were questions about how that money was spent.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Yes, there was questions about how the money was spent and whom he raised the money from, the royal Saudi family and Blackwater. There’s kind of really a lot of murkiness, which actually didn’t help his wife in her presidential campaign, of course. There were a lot of questions about it.
But, you know, what Bill Clinton did with his post-presidency is, he turned it into a money-making enterprise for himself. So, since 2001, Bill Clinton has earned $250 million in speaking fees and in book contracts. As one person said it, being president is a really, really good career move.
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JUDY WOODRUFF: His successor, George W. Bush, comes along, has, of course, his own set of issues during his presidency, and approaches his ex-presidency very differently.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Very differently.
He was delighted not to be president. He tells this story that, the day after he left the White House, he’s down in Crawford, Texas, and he opens a newspaper, and he looks at the news, and he thinks, what are we going to do about this? And then he realizes, I don’t have to do anything about this. This is no longer on my watch.
So, he closes up the papers, he grabs his two dogs, drives to the office and starts writing anecdotes for his book. So, he absolutely loved being away from — what I understand, from the everyday pressures of the presidency.
JUDY WOODRUFF: And he’s been one of the less visible former presidents.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Yes. Yes, he has.
JUDY WOODRUFF: How do you account for that?
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: I think it’s personality.
His speechwriter said that the reason he seems content is because he is content. He isn’t trying to burnish his legacy. He’s unbothered about the criticism of his eight years in office, the wars and the recession and all of that.
And so what he does is, he does the things that give him meaning and purpose. He’s pivoted toward his friends, toward mountain biking, toward golfing. Also, he goes to Africa and he looks in on the clinics and things like that.
But you know what he’s really into right now is, he’s into painting, took it very seriously. He took lessons. He does it hours every day, and now he’s painting. He’s painted war veterans, many of them wounded, as a kind of tribute to them.
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, let’s talk about President Obama.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: Yes.
JUDY WOODRUFF: He’s out of office. He’s got his own eight-year legacy, and a very different set of circumstances than he anticipated as he left office.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: This election really muddied the waters.
There was a sense that the world was Barack Obama’s oyster. He could do anything he wanted. He could work on gun control or race relations or criminal justice reform, climate change. He could own a basketball team. He could teach law. He could do anything he wanted.
The day after the election, we realized that his opportunities were circumscribed, at least at the beginning, because there’s a Republican president and Congress who is actually actively seeking to undo some of his greatest achievements.
And what’s really interesting about this time is, this election actually gave him a new, unexpected purpose, because the Clintons are no longer really the head of the Democratic Party. He’s the senior statesman in the Democratic Party. He knows that he needs to begin to work on developing new talent, bringing the party along. And so he’s got this short-term purpose as well.
JUDY WOODRUFF: The other thing about President Obama was the importance to him of family. He talked — he spoke about living over the store, being able to have dinner every night with his daughters.
And that will affect his life post-presidency.
BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY: You know, Erik Erikson, the great psychologist, said you need three things for midlife. You need work, love and play.
And he has — he will find meaningful work. And he has play. He bodysurfs and plays basketball and reads voraciously, and then love. He’s got a lot of friends, but he’s got his family. I mean, this was a man who spent his childhood kind of without a father.
And, in many ways, he defines himself more as a dad and a husband than he does as a president or an ex-president. So, kind of one of the — one of the things that people told me is that leaving the White House is not going to be difficult for him. What’s going to be really difficult is watching his children leave the nest.
JOHN YANG: Since the shootings at Columbine High School in 1999, there’s been a big rise in police stationed at schools. There are 44,000 around the country.
It’s led to concerns over their role and whether teenage behavior is sometimes being inappropriately criminalized. A new analysis of federal civil rights data by Education Week finds that black students are more likely to attend schools with police officers present, and they are three times more likely to be arrested on campus than white students.
Special correspondent Kavitha Cardoza with our partner Education Week has a report on how the St. Paul public schools in Minnesota are revamping their approach.
This is from our weekly series Making the Grade.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: Minnesota, it’s known for the Vikings, Lake Wobegon, and being nice.
But, in the past year, a series of violent interactions within the St. Paul school system has taken center stage, school fights, teacher assaults, and one incident where a visiting student was arrested for trespassing, all caught on cell phones and, of course, widely shared on social media.
Teachers threatened to strike, the superintendent was fired, and more than 100 students walked out in protest.
Makkah Abdur Salaam is a senior.
MAKKAH ABDUR SALAAM, Student: The truth is, I don’t feel safe around police. Like, it’s point blank, period.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: Students like Saffiyah Al’Aziz Muhammed say rocky police-civilian relations have filtered down to schools all over the country.
SAFFIYAH AL’AZIZ MOHAMMED, Student: Us seeing all this police brutality in the media, and then going to school, and then your interactions with school police aren’t good, it’s kind of, like, traumatizing a little bit.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: Nationwide, there were nearly 70,000 arrests during the 2013 school year. And, in most states, black students are far more likely to be arrested, according to an analysis of federal data by the Education Week Research Center.
One reason might be that they are far more likely to be in schools with police officers.
Laura Olson is trying to change the relationship between students and police officers in St. Paul schools.
LAURA OLSON, Saint Paul Public Schools: If students don’t feel safe when they come to school, they’re not going to be in a position to learn.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: One of the first things she did? Change the uniforms.
Some students expressed that they felt uncomfortable, kind of that paramilitary look. So, over the summer, instead of the hard military-style blue and metal badge, they moved to a more soft blue polo shirt with stitched-on badge.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: Officers, known as school resource officers, are still armed and carry Tasers, but Olson hopes this softer look makes them more approachable.
Another change? Clarify when SRO’s should step in and when should they step aside.
LAURA OLSON: We realized that we had a bit of a disconnect between what is perceived as behavior and what is criminal activity. What is the line between what schools handle and what the SRO handles? And sometimes the lines were a little blurry.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: Commander Kevin Casper has also increased training for SROs in areas like mental health and de-escalation. He’s creating a different mind-set.
KEVIN CASPER, Commander, St. Paul Police Department: We want to be more guardians than warriors. If a family, if a mom or dad caught their kid with marijuana, their first instinct wouldn’t be to turn them over to the police and get them into the criminal justice system.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: Casper tells of a student who was suicidal.
KEVIN CASPER: So, the SRO kind of like became his life coach, coached him, trained him, and he actually made the football team, and he’s doing great.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: That is a very emotional story for you. Tell me why.
KEVIN CASPER: It is personal. To think that cops don’t want the best for the community and kids is way, way out of what I see day to day. So…
KAVITHA CARDOZA: It’s personal for Officer Tong Yang as well.
TONG YANG, Officer: I’m also an adviser of the kids, social worker, counselor, a father figure, a coach in sports, life coach, a little bit of everything.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: Now Yang only gets involved when there’s an actual crime committed. Instead, he works on building relationships.
TONG YANG: We have been pushing to be more proactive, right, to be more visible, be more approachable, building that bond between us and the kids, having that trust factor.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: Most St. Paul teachers want SROs in schools. They recently threatened to strike over school violence.
CHERYL BUZICKY, Teacher: As teachers, we really just want to feel like we’re supported fully by everyone.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: The new teacher contract now includes money for additional supports, including counselors and social workers.
So, have efforts to overhaul school policing in St. Paul worked? It’s barely been a year, but the police point to far fewer student arrests, and administrators say the school climate has improved. But ask some students, they aren’t so sure.
SAFFIYAH AL’AZIZ MOHAMMED: It’s a tough question.
MAKKAH ABDUR SALAAM: I will say it was better than last year, but…
SAFFIYAH AL’AZIZ MOHAMMED: The year is not over, though.
MAKKAH ABDUR SALAAM: Yes. Yes, that’s true.
KAVITHA CARDOZA: For the PBS NewsHour and Education Week, I’m Kavitha Cardoza reporting from St. Paul, Minnesota.
JOHN YANG: Finally tonight: Who would have thought? A movie musical, set in contemporary Los Angeles, and it’s become a commercial and critical hit.
Today, it was nominated for 14 Academy Awards, tying “Titanic” and “All About Eve” for the most nominations ever.
Jeffrey Brown sat down with the director of “La La Land,” who received two nominations himself, including best original screenplay.
This report is part of our ongoing coverage of awards for the 2016 movie season, Beyond the Red Carpet.
JEFFREY BROWN: The story itself is well-worn: two young performers striving to make it big in the land of the stars. But “La La Land” aims to take an old form, the movie musical, and give it renewed life and broader appeal, placing it firmly in the here and now.
In New York recently, 32-year-old writer/director Damien Chazelle told me it took six years to sell studios on the film.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE, Director, “La La Land”: Not just a musical, but an original musical, so you’re not even going to be familiar with the songs going in. We can’t even sell that.
Just everything about it seems like this could never possibly have an audience or make money.
JEFFREY BROWN: But this is a film all about beating the odds. It stars Ryan Gosling as a jazz pianist who thinks all the great music came from an earlier era and is stubbornly trying to bring it back, and Emma Stone as an aspiring actress struggling to land a role and wondering if she has what it takes.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: Grew up with movies. Musicals, I kind of held at arm’s length for a while, as a kid. And then I sort of belatedly fell head over heels in love with them.
And I fell in love, specifically, with old Hollywood musicals and…
JEFFREY BROWN: Like such as?
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: I like “Singin’ in the Rain,” “Top Hat.”
So I think, as soon as I fell in love with those movies, I was thinking already about, how could you do something like that today?
JEFFREY BROWN: What did you hear in those films? What grabbed you, at whatever age you were?
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: The reveling in what only movies can do, the sort of unbridled experimentation, the audacity, the privileging of emotion over anything else, the privileging of image and sound and telling a story that way, not just telling it through dialogue or through things that you could do in literature or in a play, but really just indulging in the possibilities of the medium.
I just felt like they were — musicals were the most liberating form for a filmmaker. The language of falling in love through dance, especially in a movie like “Top Hat” or a movie like “Swing Time,” a number like, “Isn’t It a Lovely Day to Be Caught in the Rain?” which is one of the early numbers in “Top Hat,” the bickering couple, where the dialogue is telling you that they’re not in love, but they start to kind of sing and they start to dance.
And the song and the dance is what tells you, oh, actually, there’s something underneath here.
JEFFREY BROWN: You’re also working here with actors Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone, who are not known for singing and dancing.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: Yes.
Part of the intention was to not have it be people who you had seen in a musical before, so it’s not a situation where you’re kind of sitting there waiting for them to break into song, you know?
I wanted to cast actors, first and foremost, and just people who would really flesh out these characters with the same amount of depth and complexity and truth as they would if there were no musical numbers in the movie at all to help the lifting. And then the numbers can kind of emerge out of the emotions that the actors have fleshed out.
And that was much more important to me than the technique of the steps or the notes.
JEFFREY BROWN: The film is received some criticism for its portrayal of Gosling, a white man, trying to save a distinctly black art form, jazz.
Jazz is a longtime love of Chazelle’s. He first gained widespread attention in 2014 with “Whiplash,” about a young drummer who worships the greats and desperately wants to join them, and an abusive music professor who pushes him to the brink of insanity.
Chazelle himself was an aspiring jazz drummer in high school.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: I love thinking about film as music, and how the two forms can speak to each other.
JEFFREY BROWN: What does that mean, film as music?
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: Well, you know, that it’s not just about putting a camera on someone and — or on a couple of people and having them talk, and doing shot/reverse shot, and just sort of trying to passively tell a story.
It’s trying to — you’re trying to ultimately say things that words can’t say. And, sometimes, that can be done very simply. Other times, it’s done in very, I guess what you would call musical ways, thinking about rhythm and tempo, playing with the sequence of shots in an edit room, or trying to make the camera dance, trying to make the camera evoke a certain kind of melody or tempo.
JEFFREY BROWN: But also thinking about jazz and musicals not as, I don’t want to say dying art forms — I love both, but — and they thrive in some forms, but they’re not part of the popular culture.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: Yes.
JEFFREY BROWN: They’re not sort of a mainstream, mass culture.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: Yes.
JEFFREY BROWN: And yet you’re clearly attracted to both.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: Yes.
JEFFREY BROWN: And I wonder what that says about you.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: Yes, sometimes, I have felt a little bit like I was born, whatever, in the wrong…
JEFFREY BROWN: In the wrong era.
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: The wrong era, yes, which, I think, at least Ryan Gosling’s character in this movie, he certainly — his character shares that viewpoint. And that was sort of personal.
In the story of the movie that Ryan Gosling’s character ultimately has to learn is that there are limits to that kind of nostalgia. So it’s not enough to, I think, just love something from the past and kind of encase it in amber and say, don’t touch, because that actually winds up — to a certain extent, it winds up aiding its demise.
If you want to actually help an art form or sort of contribute to it in some ways, you have to find a way to add something new. You have to update it.
JEFFREY BROWN: You’re very young. Where does the ambition come from to kind of bring back the musical, to think long term, over the arc of a career?
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: I guess I’m not entirely sure. The one thing I sort of have adopted for myself as some kind of mantra is just to try to make things that scare you a little bit, to try …
JEFFREY BROWN: Scare you?
DAMIEN CHAZELLE: Yes.
Once you have done something, don’t redo it, or don’t sort of stay completely in that box. Try to play around and try to keep pushing, and even if that means you fall on your face. But that’s kind of the only movie you really want to make, in a way, because, otherwise, what are you doing? It’s so much work to make a movie.
It’s so tiring, that it’s like, you might as well be doing something that is really testing you and that is really, if it works out, going to push the medium forward.
JEFFREY BROWN: Now Damien Chazelle will vie for best director and “La La Land” for best film at the Academy Awards on February 26.
From New York, I’m Jeffrey Brown for the PBS NewsHour.
JOHN YANG: Online: What does it take to write an Oscar-nominated song? We talk to “La La Land” composer Justin Hurwitz about creating the music that has a starring role in the movie.
And find all our coverage Beyond the Red Carpet with features on movies, directors and our picks of the best films of 2016. That’s at PBS.org/NewsHour.
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